Comments on: First thoughts on “Iron Ring” http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/ YOUR SOURCE FOR MMA NEWS Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:41:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mo http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-896 Mo Sat, 11 Apr 2009 10:16:47 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-896 I second the notion that talking about "I dunna wanna see that grappling sh*t" in a MMA fight is, mildly put, an "interesting approach". His fighter will get smoked without at least basic takedown defense and some knowledge how to stall and get up again. However, so people don't die wondering, "take the head and the body follows" means, if you control the head, the body needs to follow it. Basically it means you can destabilize someone in standup by the head so he cannot get off powershots, or even make him fall down. Watch recent Wladimir Klitschko fights on that, he uses the "lead by the head" to fend off fighters going for a hook leading them to the side, toppling. It's a pretty basic thing in Bagua, which is what Novell (hopefully) learned. I however hope he doesn't try to teach a complex strength work oriented thingy like Bagua in an 8 week crash course, that will fail in an epic fashion. I second the notion that talking about “I dunna wanna see that grappling sh*t” in a MMA fight is, mildly put, an “interesting approach”. His fighter will get smoked without at least basic takedown defense and some knowledge how to stall and get up again.

However, so people don’t die wondering, “take the head and the body follows” means, if you control the head, the body needs to follow it. Basically it means you can destabilize someone in standup by the head so he cannot get off powershots, or even make him fall down. Watch recent Wladimir Klitschko fights on that, he uses the “lead by the head” to fend off fighters going for a hook leading them to the side, toppling. It’s a pretty basic thing in Bagua, which is what Novell (hopefully) learned. I however hope he doesn’t try to teach a complex strength work oriented thingy like Bagua in an 8 week crash course, that will fail in an epic fashion.

]]> By: sifu jamal hankerson http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-712 sifu jamal hankerson Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:56:39 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-712 iam a long time student of the legendary professor sijo abdul mutakabbir since childhood. and iam a first hand wittness of his skills in the classical,practical,and actual sense. a true warrior... iam a long time student of the legendary professor sijo abdul mutakabbir since childhood. and iam a first hand wittness of his skills in the classical,practical,and actual sense. a true warrior…

]]> By: Cmad77 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-425 Cmad77 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:06:43 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-425 Guys, since this show has started, Ive been visiting the iron ring blog on bet.com regularly, and have come to the conclusion that no one watches this show. I cant stir up any serious discussion about the sport their at all. The black community (of which I am a part) on the whole is not intrested in mma. I personally am a martial arts enthusiast and an MMA fan. I think we should take the show for what it is, laugh about it, and take heart in the fact that there probably won't be a season two. Guys, since this show has started, Ive been visiting the iron ring blog on bet.com regularly, and have come to the conclusion that no one watches this show. I cant stir up any serious discussion about the sport their at all. The black community (of which I am a part) on the whole is not intrested in mma. I personally am a martial arts enthusiast and an MMA fan. I think we should take the show for what it is, laugh about it, and take heart in the fact that there probably won’t be a season two.

]]> By: Terra http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-394 Terra Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:02:33 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-394 WAKEY WAKEY!!! Can't people see this farce for what it really is!? This is a group of rich and famous people using that fame and notoriety to make even more money off the back of this rising phenom called MMA i mean come on, there is only two or three guys in there who i would call bonafide MMA fighters and really i can't understand why they have decided to get mixed up in this. If i felt at all like this was about the fighters and the sport i would be all for ir (such as TUF) these jokers are just trying to make more money off the success of TUF! We all know most boxers only pretend to like MMA when really they view it as a threat to their own chosen proffession as boxers! each to their own though eh? WAKEY WAKEY!!! Can’t people see this farce for what it really is!? This is a group of rich and famous people using that fame and notoriety to make even more money off the back of this rising phenom called MMA i mean come on, there is only two or three guys in there who i would call bonafide MMA fighters and really i can’t understand why they have decided to get mixed up in this. If i felt at all like this was about the fighters and the sport i would be all for ir (such as TUF) these jokers are just trying to make more money off the success of TUF! We all know most boxers only pretend to like MMA when really they view it as a threat to their own chosen proffession as boxers! each to their own though eh?

]]> By: Larry http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-384 Larry Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:31:50 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-384 The only problem is that the rappers are featured more heavily then the fighters. The show is only a half hour and I am completely unsatisfied when the show is over. I want to see the fighters, the training, the fights, and maybe some rapper interaction peppered in between. The show should be an hour. They could do a half hour alone on Floyd Mayweather talking about himself and his money. The only problem is that the rappers are featured more heavily then the fighters. The show is only a half hour and I am completely unsatisfied when the show is over. I want to see the fighters, the training, the fights, and maybe some rapper interaction peppered in between. The show should be an hour. They could do a half hour alone on Floyd Mayweather talking about himself and his money.

]]> By: bdiddy http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-383 bdiddy Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:16:49 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-383 I have been ignoring the rappers as they are just being entertainers. Roberto Traven is a great Jiu Jitsu coach and a former world champion. I am interested to see how the show turns out. The first two episodes were questionable but I see some good fighters in there so hopefully they will highlight them more. Next year I think the show will be taken more seriously if they xnay the rappers. MMA fans will watch, with our without them. I have been ignoring the rappers as they are just being entertainers. Roberto Traven is a great Jiu Jitsu coach and a former world champion. I am interested to see how the show turns out. The first two episodes were questionable but I see some good fighters in there so hopefully they will highlight them more. Next year I think the show will be taken more seriously if they xnay the rappers. MMA fans will watch, with our without them.

]]> By: Mike "Legion" Q http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Mike "Legion" Q Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:36:00 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-382 I have seen MMA grow from its birth to its present state, with this said and as a practioner of the sport i have a great respect for MMA. I dont think the rappers feel the same they think its like dog fighting my pit bull verses yours MMA is a very technical sport which requires alot of skill and technique. when you hear TI talking about WE DONT LOSE! WTF your not fighting! And that BIG mouth BELL "WE JUST WANT KATS THAT KNOCK KATS OUT"! Are you serious! even Mayweather thinks he is superior to the sport. id like to se him fight an MMA champion! Also Alexis Aquino had every right to be mad he had a record of stepping in a ring an actually fighting and winning, when half of these guys havent even seen the inside of a cage or ring, SO WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA HOW MANY PULL UPS CAN U DO. I think this is degrading to the sport of which so many people have worked so hard to bring up. Boxing is slowly fading away and MMA IA TAKING ITS PLACE. I have seen MMA grow from its birth to its present state, with this said and as a practioner of the sport i have a great respect for MMA. I dont think the rappers feel the same they think its like dog fighting my pit bull verses yours MMA is a very technical sport which requires alot of skill and technique. when you hear TI talking about WE DONT LOSE! WTF your not fighting! And that BIG mouth BELL “WE JUST WANT KATS THAT KNOCK KATS OUT”! Are you serious! even Mayweather thinks he is superior to the sport. id like to se him fight an MMA champion! Also Alexis Aquino had every right to be mad he had a record of stepping in a ring an actually fighting and winning, when half of these guys havent even seen the inside of a cage or ring, SO WHAT WAS THE CRITERIA HOW MANY PULL UPS CAN U DO. I think this is degrading to the sport of which so many people have worked so hard to bring up. Boxing is slowly fading away and MMA IA TAKING ITS PLACE.

]]> By: Larry http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-381 Larry Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:20:26 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-381 Thanks for the comments, and I completely agree. Floyd Mayweather is very annoying. His segment of the show is all about him, how much money he makes, and how he is the best fighter in the world. You would think he is competing in the show. Thanks for the comments, and I completely agree.

Floyd Mayweather is very annoying. His segment of the show is all about him, how much money he makes, and how he is the best fighter in the world. You would think he is competing in the show.

]]> By: Art http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-380 Art Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:26:43 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-380 This show is entertaining, but puts MMA in a poor light. You have legitimate fighters who are sticking their necks out and you have these wanna be tough-guy rappers who are trying to put a steet-edge to it. What for? The UFC's inaugural event put martial artist vs. martial artist. This show is trying to make it like it's some sort of ghetto-scrap. This is the unfortunate result of MMA going mainstream. Everyone thinks they can do it. So far, in all three episodes I've watched I don't know who the fighters are and you don't even know what the criteria of how they chose their fighters. Most of the coaches want guys who want to duke it out but that's just gonna favor all of the strikers. This is like the ghetto version of the ultimate fighter; it's like an expired coupon, makes no cents. They need to remove the guys who are just talking loud and probably don't even train at 24hr fitness let alone in any kind of martial art. This is like a C-movie. I'll probably still watch because I wanna see Shonie submit Mayweather. This show is entertaining, but puts MMA in a poor light. You have legitimate fighters who are sticking their necks out and you have these wanna be tough-guy rappers who are trying to put a steet-edge to it. What for? The UFC’s inaugural event put martial artist vs. martial artist. This show is trying to make it like it’s some sort of ghetto-scrap. This is the unfortunate result of MMA going mainstream. Everyone thinks they can do it. So far, in all three episodes I’ve watched I don’t know who the fighters are and you don’t even know what the criteria of how they chose their fighters. Most of the coaches want guys who want to duke it out but that’s just gonna favor all of the strikers. This is like the ghetto version of the ultimate fighter; it’s like an expired coupon, makes no cents. They need to remove the guys who are just talking loud and probably don’t even train at 24hr fitness let alone in any kind of martial art. This is like a C-movie. I’ll probably still watch because I wanna see Shonie submit Mayweather.

]]> By: Larry Vollmer http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/comment-page-1/#comment-364 Larry Vollmer Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:12:36 +0000 http://mma.lohudblogs.com/2008/03/19/first-thoughts-on-iron-ring/#comment-364 Doc - Thanks for the comments. And I think you hit the nail directly on the head when you say that these rappers just want their face’s on TV. They don't appreciate the art of the sport, just the shear violence. The one guy at the end of episode two was placing bets on "who was leaving in the ambulance first". What a joke. Doc – Thanks for the comments. And I think you hit the nail directly on the head when you say that these rappers just want their face’s on TV.

They don’t appreciate the art of the sport, just the shear violence. The one guy at the end of episode two was placing bets on “who was leaving in the ambulance first”. What a joke.

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